Marijuana

Whats really stupid to me is the commercials on T.V. that show people smoking pot and then bad stuff happening. Like a car pulling out of a drive-threw and hitting a kid on a bike. I mean come on!! There's no point in smoking right before you get food. It just brings you down! Did you know that Marijuana hasn't caused any deaths. And Tobacco has killed many people? So why don't we all just start smoking pot?!

posted by Dee Rock on Feb 23, 2004 04:27PM

... Okay first of all, pot HAS killed many people. And if you think that it hasn't then your need to go to hell for stupidity.. Pot has killed over 35 million people in the state of Oregon alone. wether it be driveing a car while "HIGH" or what ever it may be... Pot is 7X more toxic then ciggaret smoke.. www.webMd.com/Marijuana/Risks.htm look there and read -vvdeathvv

posted by Josh Skala on Feb 27, 2004 09:18PM

Josh... I smoke pot, but your a bigger dope than me. Learn to spell..."wether", "driveing", "ciggaret". I think your the one who needs to go to hell for being so stupid.

posted by S B on Feb 29, 2004 09:28PM

Now gentlemen, let us not have a cat fight here. We're guys. I was going to reply to this post earlier, but decided to wait and see what others would post. Now I guess I might as well start speakin'. Dan, though I agree with your opinion that the majority of those commercials are not only extremely inaccurate in their depictions, I also believe that the majority of those commercials touch on the wrong topics to try and promote their (anti-pot) point of view, I believe their intentions to be for a good cause. However, my personal belief is that people/kids/teens should not start using or experimenting with the herb until they're around the age of 18. I know alot of pro-pot people who might disagree with me. In my opinion this has less to do with emotional and mental maturity level (especially as many of us know marijuana often tends to lower ones maturity level anyways), and more to do with the human body reaching as full maturity as possible before you start introducing foreign chemicals. The last thing you really want to do is mess up, in any way, the natural growth of your body in which the majority of its development occurs between being concieved and the age of 18 years. 18's also a nice convenient number, because its when you get to legally start making your own decisions in our country. Josh, I attempted to go to your link, however it did not work. I did go to webmd.com though and looked up marijuana facts, marijuana deaths, and more specifically 35 million deaths marijuana oregon (tho I now assume you may have gotten this number else-where). Searching 'marijuana facts' came up with articles for both sides of the argument, and in some cases contradicting each other. When I searched 'marijuana deaths' on the site, it came up with 5 results. The first and foremost with a 100% hit had the article title: "Marijuana Smoking DOESN'T Kill - Illegal Herb NOT Harmless, but Data Show NO LINK TO DEATH." (on another note it has been shown that the majority of motor-vehicle accidents/deaths linked with marijuana use, which no test as of yet can pin point use to within less than a month, were also linked with alcohol use which can be pin pointed to an hourly useage) And continued on to explain that point in more detail. The rest of the 'Marijuana death' search yielded results that either pertained to alcohol, gum disease from chewing tobacco, or inhalant use from markers, spray cans, nailpolish remover, and whip cream. And upon searching '35 million deaths oregon' it came up with 2 results. The first being simply a list of death tolls for each state, and browsing through them, not finding marijuana anywhere, but references to tobacco, alcohol, heart disease, and motor vehicle accidents. The second result was lung disease mostly pertaining to tobacco. For giggles I searched '35 million deaths oregon marijuana' and it came up with nothing. Which is why im assuming you got that number elsewhere. I also have a couple of links that you may be interested in yourself. As well as perhaps picking up the book or movie (though the book as always is better and much much more thorough) "Reefer Madness." Which touches on many historical facts like marijuana essentially being outlawed to control foreigners who were taking american jobs. And that one could probably assume that the continuation of many marijuana myths and anti-pot propaganda is partly because our government doesnt want to admit the possible racial mistakes of their fore-fathers. However the links I have for you are as follows: http://www.drugtext.org/sub/marmyt1.html This is a good one. Its written by Paul Hager chair of the ICLU Drug Task Force, and lists all references for information, and touches nicely on your comment about pot being more harmful than cigarettes. http://www.ukcia.org/research/zimmer.htm is another good one I found as well as http://www.globalhemp.com/Archives/FAQ/myths_and_realities.html These last two links are very similar, and have more to do with industrial hemp. In my opinion I truly believe to each their own. Most importantly if that ones own doesnt inflict on the rights of another. Isnt that really what most of us envision when we hear America: The land of the Free? And though I personally do not agree with the use of harder drugs such as heroine and cocaine, if one could use these types of drugs, and still not infringe in any way on the rights of others, then to each their own. I just hope they dont OD. As for a brief touch on medical marijuana. Marijuana could be considered alternative medicine. And like most other alternative medicine, not all, but a great majority of medical persons tend to dissuade against their use. Whats the problem in my opinion? Though there are many medical persons who truly are out to help the community, the medical society is in itself a VERY big business. And that business stands to lose, and therefor protects visciously, litterally millions if not billions of profit dollars in prescription medication. Slightly off topic, doesn't anyone else find it slightly sickening that ritalin among similar drugs prescriptions are now being handed out almost like candy to americas youth pretty much simply because....kids are kids!!?? Im deffinately NOT saying that some kids CAN'T benefit from it....but its almost like its become a fad everyones gotta have, which to me is very disturbing. Its like a bunch of yuppies too busy with work dont know why their kid has energy while they continually plop him/her down infront of the tele-babysitter.

posted by StU aRt on Mar 01, 2004 01:00PM

lol....wow. There was alot of touching in there huh??

posted by StU aRt on Mar 01, 2004 01:41PM

Wow STU that was alot to read but im glad you got the point across for me that person just need to get some facts straigt.

posted by Dee Rock on Mar 04, 2004 02:43PM

also let me add that its just like people to faslify information to help benefit there own cause/charity/religion. Any thing to make the "other" people who are different soud obtuse for there beliefs. As for the pot heads around here Keep Smokin'

posted by Dee Rock on Mar 04, 2004 02:49PM

People do like to falsify information or perhaps sometimes streeeetch the truth a bit. But that goes for both sides of this argument, and any argument. Sometimes its like playing the game "operator." Y'know where you sit in a circle and someone starts a message whispering from ear to ear, but more often than not by the time the last person gets it....its all messed up and far from what it started as. Also another something to keep in mind. For any side of any argument. I think the best policy is to just simply, keep and open mind.

posted by StU aRt on Mar 04, 2004 03:30PM

I'd like to preface this post by saying that this just doesn't sound like the Josh I know. I'm wondering if someone esle has made a post using his account. Therefore, I'm going to narrowly respond to the post itself because as Stu so aptly pointed out, the information seems more than a bit suspect. That being said... 35 million deaths in Oregon alone??? Sort of hard to believe when there were only 3,541,500 people in Oregon according to a 2003 University of Oregon estimate. The implication is that 10 times the current population of Oregon has died from smoking pot? To carry this out a little farther, since there are roughly 292.8 million people in the United States total, that means 8.3% of the total US population died of smoking pot in Oregon alone. That should have raised quite a stink (quite literally) in surrounding states by now, but since the smell of rotting flesh hasn't reached Washington or Idaho yet, I'd say the numbers are a bit off. If we assume the level of pot smoking is fairly uniform across the nation and multiply 35 million by the number of states, we would have a pretty significant population deficit. So unless someone would care to try to produce the evidence to make the case that an organic weed has killed over 3 times as many people in one state than Hitler eradicated in all of Europe during WWII, I'd say we can safely disregard that bizzarre little piece of data as undeniably false. So, perhaps it was more like three-and-a-half people? Sources: http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html http://www.upa.pdx.edu/CPRC/publications/annualorpopulation/certified_estimates_03.pdf

posted by Clint Phipps on Mar 08, 2004 02:11PM

holy shit that was funny....yeah sure theres that many people in that little state ya frikkin moron hahahahah shit like that only happens in asia....the little bastards start smokin at like 8 or 9

posted by trisha tillery on May 04, 2004 10:12AM

LoLoLoL.....oh god that was horrible...

posted by StU aRt on May 04, 2004 11:14AM

i started when i was 9... but not the point, it might have something to do with what they put IN the weed...

posted by Cean Lakranski on May 04, 2004 03:44PM

Mari Ju Ana is bad, mmmmm kay

posted by Tavi Gal on May 07, 2004 02:11AM

marijuana is good cause its not bad....nekkid

posted by trisha tillery on May 07, 2004 09:35AM

Hey listen I smoke weed everyday. Since i was in seventh grade and i love it. XTC is some good shit too.

posted by Dee Rock on May 09, 2004 11:58PM

You're stupid for the XTC part. I hope you choke and die on one of your pills you stupid little man. And, loving to smoke weed, and it having no negative affects on anything, are two entirely different things. So... Just no... No. Choke little man, choke.

posted by Carlos Koglin on May 12, 2004 08:38PM

Those commercials are pretty stupid. I have done alot of different kinds of drugs and there are only a handfull that I might still do but only once in a very great while and if I could get away with it at work I would still smoke pot but they do random drug tests. Anyway, I have done alot of dumb shit in my younger years and I lost everything about 4 years ago and am still tryin to get out of that mess. I am only 25. I guess I am just sayin that if you are so caught up in any drug (not just weed)that you are trading your personal things or stealing stuff from people to get drugs you need to seek help even if its your neibor, get help. You will thank yourself later in life. I did 2 years of nothing but drink and any drug that was put in front of me and I am glad I experienced it but my mind isnt very good anymore as far as remembering things, and I am still paying back companies and people that I borrowed money from. I even lost my fiance. I'm not bitchin at anyone I am just tryin to help as many people as I can so that no one has to go through what I did. I dont regret anything but what I owe people and that I lost my love. Thanks for listening. Keep on smokin if ya can.

posted by -- -- on Aug 09, 2004 06:50AM

Hahahaha....haha....35 million people in oregon....

posted by Carly Merriman on Aug 24, 2004 04:48PM

Ok so heres my opinion, you probably dont wanna hear it but oh well. Marijuana is illegal yes but it doesnt mean its bad, i mean in some cases its better than getting drunk because when your stoned you still know what your doing and your more controlled and level headed, and when your drunk you tend to do ignorant shit and be stupid. im not saying im against drinking, because im not at all, im just saying that if your looking for a safer buzz or whatever id pick marijuana. Oh and whoever said theyve tried XTC then your fucking retarded.

posted by Kalarr -- on Aug 25, 2004 03:13PM

yes i agree no one has seriously has been injured by marijuana an its not a big deal ao i say if u want to die smoke tabacco its the leadin cause of death when on otehr hand marijuana is 0 percent so whos ever want people to die then there against marijuans it is composed of canabas a plan that is naturaly grown that the one an only Thomas Jefferson Used

posted by brandi davis on Dec 06, 2004 03:45PM

Ummmm... Yeah... I get high but i don't kill people when I do it. I think the only bad thing about pot is getting the munchies. And you all need to lay back and get high, though some of you might need to get laid by the sound of it.

posted by Bad Kittie Katt on Dec 23, 2004 12:10AM

well I dont think marijuan kills people.. People die from drinking and driveing and shit like that.. i know many people in my town that smoke pot. i have smoked pot but i dont do it a lot. When ur high your just stupid like in funny haha stupid.. You laugh a lot and think lil things are funny. I mean its not like ur gonna kill some1 if u was on someother drug you might but not when your high on marijuan. I know people who drive 10 x's better when there high. I dont get why people dont like it and its so bad.. thats b.s!

posted by Rachel Stinnet on Jan 02, 2005 07:47PM

i'm a 47 year old female and i dont see anything wrong with pot i smoke it with my kid when i go to cali. on vacation,some people are just plain stupid

posted by cindy fisher on Jan 25, 2005 07:23PM

pot pot pot...call it what you may, just be moderate with whatever you do .....but for a natural substance yes its the best .....if there are problems with smoking weed..... then drink the teaaaaa

posted by lloyd -- on Feb 08, 2005 09:13AM

man i smoke weed all the fucking time and i dont give a shit what all you fucking people are saying you cant fucking nock it unless you have tryed it. so to all you stoners out there keep on smoking ps its fucking hard to type high

posted by fuck you on Apr 07, 2005 01:36PM

For people who think weed kills people you havn't done your research. Do some research there isn't anyone who's died from smokin pot. If anything it's a really good drug that alot of people should do. By the way people who are concerned, and wonder does it kill brain cells no it doesn't. So basically it's a friendly and harmless drug. So if you are really stressed kick back and smoke you some doobage. If you really want to feel some effects smoke it in a water bong. By the way who ever that dipshit was who said that weed killed over 35 million people in oregon your a fucking retard~!~

posted by linda keeler on May 04, 2005 07:46PM

Hello fellow pot smokers!!! I love pot and I try to smoke it as muck as possible. I think If anything cigarttes should be illegal because pot had never killed a soul, on the other hand, cigarttes have killed hundreds of thousands of people I think they should switch the system and make tobacco illegal and make pot legal.Tabby

posted by linda keeler on May 04, 2005 08:02PM

Marijuana does not directly kill people, no. I very much agree with this. And while I do not personally smoke pot a good portion of my friends do. When a person is killed while drunk driving, the event is filed under "Accident". So while marijuana is pretty much impossible to overdose on, just be carful around cars. Oh yes, and those commercials are the stupidest thing ever.

posted by Josh Tyzzer on May 25, 2005 04:57PM

There is nothing wrong with a little gonja smoke. Pople always look at the kids in middle school using it, but not teenagers?The focus is are on kids because they are young and they look at teenagers who smoked at a young age and their life is messed up. If parents prevent their kids from smoking until they are about 15/16, they would understand. It's an unwritten fact that I came up with, when naturally smart kids smoke they dumb-out. When dumb people smoke it it gets them thinking, that is why they get "stuck". Their minds are thinking too much so they just chill, it's a good feeling don't get me wrong, but they don't think about what there minds are thinking of. It makes sense because smart people minds are none stop thinking, mostly shy people, and smoking slows down their minds. it's the opposit for the dumb. When they're about 15, their minds begin to get tired,because of school pretty much, and when they smoke or drink it kicks starts their minds.

posted by P D on May 29, 2005 01:48PM

u just havent tried any

posted by loser goode on Nov 15, 2005 12:08PM

i like to smoke it smoke it

posted by loser goode on Nov 15, 2005 12:09PM

My mom caught the stench of marijuana all over my clothes after a fun-filled 3-day weekend at my best bud's house. We hot-boxed his room and smoked almost an ounce. It was one of the funnest weekends of my life. I'm only 16, but when I got caught it seemed as if i was 8 again. My parents treated me as if i was felon. I've done my research on marijuana and all the bad effects it causes on people and their very miniscule. I would never go to school high, nor am I getting bad grades. I understand why my parents are scared, because of the Media labeling it as such a HARMFUL drug, and even leading to my death. My parents kept asking me why I was so "unhappy" that made me want to smoke "pot." I wanted to tell them so badly that I dont do it because im unhappy, if anything it makes me happy. Now im watched like a hawk and their making me get a job... I crave the feeling weed gave me once more, what do I do?

posted by Sean Slars on Nov 20, 2005 02:04PM

This is an old ass messageboard..and i'm sure no one will ever read this...but i just felt like posting. Some people here have some legitimate things to say, while others are simply ignorant. According to the United States Census, as of 2005, no one has ever died directly from marijuana. Indirect deaths, such as car accident, can be debated, as they cannot prove that the person was actually high while they were driving, and in most cases they were also under the influence of another drug. And as far as marijuana smoke being bad for your lungs, this is true. Inhaling any kind of smoke is bad for you, but this can be avoided by eating pot. Eating it causes absolutely not long term effects. There is a scientist named Jack Herer who has done some really interesting studies on marijuana (www.jackherer.com) He estimates that a person would have to smoke roughly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within a 15 minute period to induce a THC overdose. If anyone here thinks they can smoke that much, please email me and i will pay for your ticket to come visit me, forget 1,500 pounds....if you can smoke a pound in 15 minutes then i'll saw off my leg and give it to you. We all know that smoking 1,500 pounds in 15 minutes is a physical impossibility...which is exactly why you cannot overdose on marijuana....it's impossible. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant and needs to research more. The only possible way you could die from it directly is if you are allergic...but that makes it no more dangerous than peanut butter. Our country has a very bad veiw on drugs. If you watch Chris Rock's DVD "Never Scared", i think you'll find his veiws on drugs in America both humerous and informative.

posted by Andy -- on Dec 01, 2005 01:01AM

I think that its a big money spender

posted by alix rouch on Dec 16, 2005 09:14AM

Know i relly like weed,but theres this girl i like and she likes me,but she dont like the point that i smoke weed. Now i got a choice keep the weed or get the girl that i relly like? see weed dose to people. Im still trying to get her and stop weed smoking and its not a hard choice to make of corse the girl.

posted by alix rouch on Dec 16, 2005 09:24AM

Guys now I really don’t care about smoking or drinking or weed for that matter but let me tell you some funny UK statistics 1 did you know that more people die from just drinking and just driving then drinking and driving… Now that’s hilarious Did you know alcohol causes more deaths then weed Same applies to tobacco And yet they are legal Now that’s don’t let me tell you some other things weed does cause deaths but the way some of you see it is as this, I take weed, I drive a car, I hit something and die, weed killed me… No the fact that you drove killed you Now with that in mind how many deaths has tobacco caused…….or alcohol for that matter? Other things weed is allowed for medical use because it does help people in pain or stress but alcohol has not beneficial effects… and causes more deaths then gun crimes…(if you consider it like I drive when drunk and hit someone etc…) The best thing to do is make it legal but….only through the government ie you have to apply and to be recorded as a user…that way they can keep track of you and for you to buy weed you would need a special card that way they know when you take too much….. Think about it lower crime rates (people don’t need to steal goods to buy weed from some junky)

posted by Yev Soshka on Feb 03, 2006 10:07PM

okay okay... here's my look on marijuana... think of it this way: cocaine, heroine, acid, ex, and all of those are man-made drugs, right? weed is homegrown stuff, basically, it comes from the ground. it's a plant that you can find in your back yard. it's not weed that kills people, it's the stupidity that kills people!! same with guns, guns don't kill people, idiots with guns kill people. marijuana does NOT kill anyone. the stupidity of the people that would get high in a car then drive up to a fast-food restaurant and kill the little kid on the bike isn't the marijuana's fault, is it? it's the idiot's behind the wheel that wasn't paying attention. why? because he was high on weed, BUT he was high on weed in a CAR.. do you see where i'm going with this? weed doesn't kill people, idiots do..

posted by mike medici on Feb 11, 2006 10:21AM