Punk Asses...

Fuck that whiney bitch Billy Corgan, Fuck Brian Johnson, Fuck Ozzy Ozborne.....and FUCK the transmorphed whiney bitch, Fredrick Durst. That is all...

posted by StU aRt on Mar 07, 2002 03:38PM

Hey... I like Black Sabbath.

posted by Piper -- on Mar 07, 2002 04:17PM

BLACK SABBATH RULES ETERNAL. And if you don't think so, you can...

posted by Cody Phipps on Mar 07, 2002 05:28PM

Hey! You're a cheater! You DID bash Sabbath!!! I saw it! Now you try to pass it off as a general "Ozzy Bash." Nope. Sorry. You've already been caught.

posted by Piper -- on Mar 08, 2002 11:49AM

You might not like Ozzy's voice, but he's an institution in rock and roll.

posted by Clint Phipps on Mar 08, 2002 03:51PM

{lol} sorry piper, you missed a brief conversation...I'll explain later.

posted by StU aRt on Mar 08, 2002 04:49PM

Greg, YOU SAID BLACK SABBATH SUCKS!! That is an incorrect statement.

posted by Cody Phipps on Mar 08, 2002 10:26PM

YES. THAT STATEMENT WAS INCORRECT. DON'T FUCK WITH SABBATH OR THEY'LL GO ALL IRON MAN ON YOUR ASS. Black Sabbath is the root of all heavy music that you listen to. They were true innovators.

posted by Clint Phipps on Mar 09, 2002 03:47PM

And on top of that, they just plain rule!

posted by Cody Phipps on Mar 09, 2002 07:32PM

By the way, ACDC's good too. And I'm not the only one who thinks so wither. Two words for ya, Stu... Shania Twain. Yeah, you know what I'm talkin' 'bout.

posted by Clint Phipps on Mar 10, 2002 10:10AM

OZZY's a bumbling mumbling waste of space, Brian Johnson's half-way choked to death as it is...so might as well finish his sloppy ass off. I'll sweep em both up in a dust-pan, and drop em in a toilet full of diarrhea, wipe my hands and have done with it. Institution.....If you want me to take a crap in a box and mark it "institution" I can, I got spare time...

posted by StU aRt on Mar 11, 2002 09:15AM

I think you should soften your judgments. Ozzy always said the nicest things about you.

posted by Piper -- on Mar 11, 2002 11:44AM

Me in particular....or the public?

posted by StU aRt on Mar 11, 2002 05:20PM

OK....here we go...Ozzy, he was an ignorant loser willing to bite the head off of a bat(the only thing he ever did to help sabbath's career). An institution that man is not. The true revolutionizing institution in that band was Tony Iommi(which is why he was the only member of the band to play with Jethro Tull). AC/DC, I'd rather ride a bicycle with no seat than listen to them. Seriously...not only do all their songs sound so damn similar...but they all suck too. I ain't even touching the other two fucks Greg mentioned, I hate them that much.

posted by Joshua Taylor on Mar 12, 2002 10:41AM

Ozzy turned into a pansy once he started taking his daughter to see Britney Spears and Nsync concerts.

posted by Cat Bartash on Mar 13, 2002 09:21AM

Ozzy sprouted, grew, and flowered into a pansy from the moment he was conceived.

posted by StU aRt on Mar 13, 2002 09:38AM

Ozzy wrote some decent lyrics, and penned some decent songs. Sorry haters, that's just the way it is...

posted by Cody Phipps on Mar 13, 2002 03:25PM

Don't need no hateration

posted by Joshua Taylor on Mar 13, 2002 03:32PM

I would like to add some more peeps to Stu's list, like: Bob Seger, or The Sege as I like to call him, and Jimmy Buffet...my classic rock station would be so much better off without them.

posted by Joshua Taylor on Mar 13, 2002 03:40PM

Ok. The Jimmy Buffet stuff stops right here. I'm not egging you on, Josh. I mean it. He is a close personal friend of mine. I used to listen to him with my Dad when I was little. You can't beat a song like Margaritaville. And dammit, he's got some nice beach houses down around the North Carolina shoreline...

posted by Piper -- on Mar 13, 2002 04:36PM

By the way, OZZY NEVER BIT THE HEAD OFF A BAT. It went something like this... Manager (M): "Ozzy, I been hearing stuff about that show the other night..." Ozzy (O): "Really like what?" M: "The press is saying you bit the head off a bat..." O: "I never bit the head off any bat!!!" M: "Well don't tell anybody you didn't do it, everybody LOVES IT!!!!" (...some say it was a chicken that a fan threw onto the stage that Ozzy kicked back into the crowd who all ripped it to shreds...) And so a rock and roll legend was born.

posted by Clint Phipps on Mar 31, 2002 12:23PM

Well, actually, Ozzy DID bite the head off of a bat. It was in the early 80,s. It was in a metting with a bunch of executives. And by the way, that didn't do SHIT for Black Sabbath's career. When Ozzy did it, he was already OUT of Sabbath (which is the worst mistake that fucker Tony Iommi ever made) When he did it, it was at a listening "party" for Ozzy's CD "Blizzrd of Ozz" So, no, it didn't help Sabbath any. And I don't want to hear ANY more bitching about Billy Corgan. I'm a HUGE Pumpkins fan. Anyone that can write an album like Mellon-Collie and the Infinite Sadness is alright with me. Billy isn't "whining". What you hear on mainstream radio these days is fucking whining. You can't turn your radio dial to a heavy metal station without listening to bands like Korn, or Limp Bizkit or even Staind playing a song that basically consists of "wah wah, boo hoo, my daddy didn't get me a pony when I was 5". Frankly, I'm tired of listening to that shit. Fuck Limp Bizkit, Fuck Staind, Fuck Korn, Fuck Disturbed. BUT if worse came to worse, I'd much rather listen to that shit, than torture myself with "Yo nigga, nigga, where my Ho's at" bullshit. Black Sabbath is Metal. They created it. Don't fuck with that, because if it wasn't for them, than there wouldn't be any GOOD hard rock bands out there today. And for all of you Metallica fans that have some sort of problem with Sabbath... Try listening to ONE Metallica song, and NOT hearing a blatant fucking rip-off of a Sabbath song. I bet you can't find very many. So, in conclusion... Billy Corgan's a genius, so is Ozzy, and if you have a problem with Ozzy, take it up with Zakk Wylde, and see how far you get. And as for Nu-metal, and shit-rock, I have a Louisville slugger, with all of those motherfucker's names on it.

posted by Josey Cary on Mar 31, 2002 03:25PM

HA HA!!! WOOO HOOO!!! Let's have a baseball game!!! BATTERUP. Yeah - I'm with you man. (So maybe Ozzy did bite the head off a bat.... I don't fucking know... and neither does anyone esle.)

posted by Clint Phipps on Mar 31, 2002 03:42PM

Criticizing people who have enough talent, connections, brains (add anything else you can think of that makes people famous right here), to make themselves and/or their group internationally recognized as a pop/rock/any-genre-you-want icon is a blatantly dumb thing to do. Your tiny scribble of your opinion of their talent is not going to diminish their success or stardom one bit, for one. Secondly, calling them names and saying they suck isn't going to make you or your group look any better either. So why are we doing this? Why is this post continuing? I think the whole thing is useless and a worthless waste of energy and time. That's my two cents. I won't be writing to this post again.

posted by Cody Phipps on Mar 31, 2002 04:06PM

You know what? That post really pissed me off... I mean, I guess Ozzy's not exactly a genius, but he didn't write alot of the music that's on his CD's either... Randy Rhoads (R.I.P.) did, and so did Zakk Wylde, to name a few. I'm ot an AC/DC fan, but I'll have to admit that they did alot for the hard rock genre. Another thing I'm pissed about that I'm going to say on here, (and probably get crucified for, but that's OK, because I've been a martyr for the music I like for a LONG time...) is that without the Pumpkins, the "alternative" movement of the early 90's wouldn't have thrived the way it did. I hate the fact that Nirvana (seemingly so) gets all of the credit for that, when it was bands like Pearl Jam, The Pumpkins, Alice In Chains, and Soundgarden that were the ones making all of the really GOOD music. I mean, sure, listen to Nevermind... Yeah, it has some catchy stuff, and a few good lines, but then listen to Badmotorfinger by Soundgarden. THAT album fucking ROCKS. So does Vs. by Pearl Jam, and Dirt by Alice in Chains. I'm fucking SICK of hearing "Nevermind" this, and "In Utero" that.. Look at some old issues of Guitar WOrld from back in the day, and read up. Back then, it was all about Kim Thayil, Mike McCready, and Jerry Cantrell.. Now, every 3 months, there's a fucking picture of Kurt Cobain on the cover. If it would have been Chris Cornell that would have offed himself instead of Kurt, you can fucking bet your balls that he'd be on the cover of every fucking corporate bullshit advertisement, supposed "guitar oriented" magazine in print. Another thing, is how people say that Nirvana's music was so "heavy".. Bullshit. Find their "heaviest" song, and then put Superunknown in your CD player, turn it to track 14, and listen. "4th of July" by Soundgarden is by far the fucking heaviest song that came out of that era. Kurt was a good writer, but the arrangements of Soundgarden's albums far excede anything of that era. They were WAY ahead of their time. Granted, there are bands (like Nirvana) that were appreciated not for their proficiency as musicians but for the feeling they put into their music. But as far as that goes, you want something that doesn't have scorching fast solos? You want something that makes you feel like you've been hit by a truck, JUST from the way it sounds? "Undertow",and "Aenima" by Tool. There you go. Some people say that all of this rock that's happend in the past couple of years wouldn't have happend without Nirvana, well, if Creed, and Nickelback are the products of Nirvana... Then I don't know what to say... People like Tom Morello, and Billy COrgan are the ones that made guitar rock from the early 90's what it was. Not Kurt CObain's out of tune Jap-strat. ANd some people also say that if it wasn't for Sabbath, then there wouldn't BE a Nirvana, or Pearl Jam. Bullshit. Alternative is the grandchild of punk. If there weren't the Sex Pistols, Black Flag, or The Ramones, the "alt" scene never would have taken place... OK.. Yeah.. I'm done complaining now.. But you get the point... Give credit where credit's due. If I paved the way for the music of 2010, I wouldn't want some douchebag taking the credit for it, when he was just a tiny part of it.

posted by Josey Cary on Mar 31, 2002 04:14PM

I agree with Cody... But I just wanted my opinion known.

posted by Josey Cary on Mar 31, 2002 04:15PM

We also need to remember that talent (obviously) isn't all you need to make a record, get signed and make a couple million dollars. I've heard of PLENTY of bands that played a show one night in some obscure club, and there just happend to be a scout there, and they got signed. I mean, look at bands like Dog's Eye View, Lifehouse, and Dishwalla. Just because you have talent doesn't mean you're going to get a record contract, and even if you don't have any talent, then you might get one anyway. If a scout hears a song that's kinda catchy, and thinks it might sell well to the TRL crowd, then that band will get signed. The record industry isn't what it used to be. It's not about music anymore. It's about money. Luckily SOME bands with talent get signed. Oh, and BTW.. A few bands I forgot.. Jane's Addiction, and Red Hot Chili Peppers..

posted by Josey Cary on Mar 31, 2002 04:26PM

1) Conversing about the worth of art and it's influence over the past, present, and future of a society, business, industry, or any other group in which one is involved is a worthy expenditure of one's energy. In this society where the ability to express one's opinions about anything is one of the most highly coveted and hard fought prizes that ability, that right has been and will continue to be exercised by people interested in the events external to themselves. Our generation has been labeled a rogue band of introverts, apathetic to all that we consider a "waste of energy" or a "waste of our (oh-so-precious) time." This last response [correction: the 4:06 post] is a shining example of all that has won us all that label. 2) Anyone who seriously things that some requisite amount of talent connections, brains, or (and I'm adding my own here) flat out lightning-strike-twice luck should be sufficient to elevate one's social influence beyond any critical remark needs to, in my humble opinion, reexamine their basis for evaluating that which is worthy of consumption. Should record sales dictate the artistic significance of any and all music? Maybe in a purely economic or capitalist sense, but please? 3) A tiny scribble on the validity of someone's opinion and it's effect on the overall "stardom" (in other words economic significance) in an attempt to devalue their opinion on the artistic merit of certain works is an egotistical and foolish endeavor. Artistic merit and economic success are apples and oranges. (e.g., Big hair made lots of money in the 80's but who will defend the artistic merit of that getup?) 4) Blatantly dumb: Publicly berating someone for taking the time and energy to post to their opinion to your website after you've expressed your very own opinion in like manner. And I will be posting to this discussion in the future if something interesting comes up.

posted by Clint Phipps on Mar 31, 2002 04:41PM

Just to clarify some details, it was Alice Cooper who got accused of biting the head off something (I think it was either a dove, or a bat, but come to think of it, it might have been a chicken...hmmm..but anyway) and it was Frank Zappa who called him and asked if he did it. Upon hearing Cooper's denial, he said "don't ever tell anyone you didn't!" As for Ozzy and the bat... At the aforementioned Blizzard of Oz "release party", Ozzy brought in some doves and was going to let them fly away, sort of to show he was a decent guy, not all sick and twisted. Then he grabbed one of them and bit its head off. After that it became a bit of a tradition for him to bite the heads off rubber bats at his shows. But someone threw an unconscious live bat on the stage, and he went after it as though it were rubber...wound up in the ER getting rabies shots, I do believe.

posted by Jon Look on Mar 31, 2002 07:20PM

Yeah Jon, you're right. It WAS a dove. And in my opinion, stating my opinion on a subject that is a staple in my life is FAR more important than other things on this board. Hmm... Which would I rather reply to? A negative comment about Billy Corgan (which happens to be a personal hero of mine), or what someone's Chinchillas should named. Mind you, I mean NO offence whatsoever to the chinchilla lady or anyone who replied to that post, but in MY opinion (and I'm sure I'm not alone here..) Music is just more important. TO ME. I'm an avid music listener, so OF COURSE I'm going to say something when someone knocks one of my favorite artists. And anyone with ANY balls whatsoever would do the same.

posted by Josey Cary on Mar 31, 2002 08:20PM

Neutrality is boring, constant positivity is unnatural, and human nature leads us to question the world around us, its VALUE, its MERIT, and its WORTH.

posted by Piper -- on Mar 31, 2002 11:46PM

I want to validly point out, using a small portion of my valuable time, that I don't like the country music on the radio. I don't like the notion of a "mainstream counterculture." I don't like that most people in this world don't know what that means. I don't like the Smashing Pumpkins all that much, though I respect them as artists, because that's what art is. Art is free. I think also that speech should be free, especially in a forum such as this one. I think my opinion about the things I don't like is just as well-founded and just as valuable to me (and maybe even to someone listening to me) as my opinions about the things I do like. I think it is reasonable to assume that when, for example, Greg says he doesn't like Ozzy, he is saying that because he doesn't like Ozzy for a reason. That reason is that Ozzy's music, affect, whatever, doesn't appeal to Greg. When, for example, Josey says he likes the Smashing Pumpkins, he says it for a reason. I value each opinion equally, though they differ drastically, because they are the opinions of individuals with differently developed tastes. People are really fucking interesting if you listen to them. I just listened to a very long very forceful discussion and it was full of negativity, on both sides. Despite that negativity, it was evident that both sides were completely confident that what they were saying was correct. Where my agreement lies is beside the point... My point is that negativity does not render a statement invalid or worthless. Here's one for you- TERRORISM SUCKS. That about sums up a pretty popular opinion, correct? Well, here's another one for you- TERRORISM IS EXTREMELY UNFAVORABLE BECAUSE IT NEARLY ALWAYS RESULTS IN THE DEATHS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Tell me which statement holds more value, and tell me why.

posted by Piper -- on Apr 01, 2002 12:14AM

Taste Vacuous

posted by Zach Beane on Apr 01, 2002 08:20AM

I agree with Piper.. Completely. I was in a fucking PISSED OFF mood yesterday, and everything set me off. I'm not in ANY way taking back what I said, or contradicting myself (at least I hope not...) but I'm one of those people who likes to have their own opinions, and if fallible, I like it to be known. Especially on a subject as important to me, as the music I like. What I don't get in a day for food, or sleep, or even oxygen, I make up for in music..And then some.. It's a beautiful trade. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. We all share this muse, and regardless of what anyone says, I still feel that what I have to say about something is just as relavent as the next guy.

posted by Josey Cary on Apr 01, 2002 02:47PM

Antithetical Red Herring

posted by Clint Phipps on Apr 02, 2002 12:13PM

We apologize. We are vacuous. We have only bad taste and no valid opinions to express. We are fruitlessly argumentative simply because we are mindless. We enjoy, actually, watching paint dry. We express ideas using such poor language that the result of our exchange is absolutely null. We never achieve anything. We ought to have been silent all along.

posted by Piper -- on Apr 04, 2002 04:55PM

Black Sabbath did't start the heavy metal phase LED ZEPPLIN did that and Ozzy does suck

posted by Ron Small on Jan 16, 2003 12:05PM

just so you know, its spelled Led ZeppElin remember that for future reference -

posted by James Greene on Jan 16, 2003 09:37PM

rock on james. :-)

posted by Jess Chahanovich on Jan 16, 2003 10:00PM

So I cant spell so what

posted by Ron Small on Jan 17, 2003 01:09PM

my birthday is on Jan. 17th

posted by Jarrod Anderson on Apr 24, 2003 11:39PM

my cats breath smells like catfood...

posted by StU aRt on Apr 25, 2003 09:24AM

Clint! My man. Regarding your posting of Mar 10, 2002 10:10AM (you may want to read it again just now). Funnily enough, Shania Twain's husband Robert "Mutt" Lange produced the 1979 AC/DC album "Highway to Hell" that catapulted the band to fame outside of Australia. It seems in his twilight years he prefers to do something a little quieter. (And if he fancies a night off, he just has to call me...)

posted by Matthew St.John on Apr 25, 2003 11:11AM

Talk about dredging up the past. "Quieter" may be the right word to describe it literally, but...

posted by Clint Phipps on Apr 25, 2003 02:47PM

I'm sure Mr. Lange doesn't think of it as the past! It will seem like only yesterday to him. As will the time he produced "Back in Black". Remember that one? Sold over 10 million copies? If we want to get really old and clever, can anyone tell me what the Beatles biggest contribution to the music industry was? I'll give you a clue - it wasn't Sgt. Pepper.

posted by Matthew St.John on Apr 26, 2003 09:24AM

i don't care about any of this shit. i'm stoned and board. and alittle pissed off at the world. here is my list of all time punk asses: joe schimming mikle pilkerton and his brother your mom any dude on a reality show the cops police po po 50 ....etc, whateva fred d is a bitch ozzy is ok but has done so many drugs he's a fucking retard. people how wear american eagle, or ambercromy or somthing like fintch! any one scared to fight any one who says sk8ing is illegal. anyone that thinks there perfect. every one who spreads rummors, and then lies about it right before you kick there ass. any one who does not have to work for food,and a roof. carson daily and whole buch of punk ass mother fuckers!

posted by a c on Dec 02, 2003 05:48PM

hehe... kool...

posted by Cean Lakranski on Dec 02, 2003 09:45PM

Why argue about it? Some people are teeny boppers and like NSYNC, others think they are hard and like 50 cent, and some are dark and fall under the manson catagory. THere are many different types of people with different interest of music. Why fight over whats good and isnt? Everyones opinion on whats good is different. I like a little of everything and I can see everyones point.

posted by ALexandra Dean on Dec 09, 2003 11:14AM

This is a BIG piece of garbage started by some loser

posted by StU aRt on Dec 10, 2003 09:27AM

OK I DONT AGREE WITH ONE OF THE MESSAGES....SO I HAVE TO BE ALL DARK AND GLOOMY TO LISTEN TO MANSON...I KNOW PREPPY PEOPLE THAT LISTEN TO MANSON HUHUHUH WHAT NOW BEOTCH

posted by trisha tillery on May 04, 2004 08:16PM

Punk asses.... aka wannabe hardcore, lacking balls. Usually come equipped with a big mouth and an even bigger opinion on everything he knows nothing about. So I say to you, little punk ass, punk on little punkass, punk on.. For without you, the rest of us would have little to make fun of at the mall. --thank you.

posted by Tim - on May 05, 2004 06:59AM